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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \'Times New Roman\'; mso-hansi-font-family: \'Times New Roman\';"><span twffan="done" style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \'times new roman\'; mso-hansi-font-family: \'times new roman\';"><img alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.heilan.com/images_tie/media.jpg" twffan="done" style="CURSOR: pointer;"/></span>【</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">BB</font></span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \'Times New Roman\'; mso-hansi-font-family: \'Times New Roman\';">专访】</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2007-03-06 </font></span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \'Times New Roman\'; mso-hansi-font-family: \'Times New Roman\';">边河:要认真,认真就能做好事</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span></b><span lang="EN-US"><br/><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:从你喜欢的电影开始吧,你是学这个的吗?还是个人业余兴趣?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:个人业余兴趣,非常业余。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:看你在论坛上的帖子,觉得很有意思。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:哪里有意思,你说说看。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:觉得很有自己的看法呐,说话掷地有声的,所以我的印象就是:来了个专业的!</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:啊,抬举我了。我思维很混乱。尚同学比我更有把式。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:以前做过这样的版主工作吗?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:做过,但是没有这么认真。以前在地网也是做电影斑竹,但是那里比较混杂,就是话题集中不了,如果说的稍微严肃一点话题,就没人理。所以后来几乎就没怎么去那里。直到到了黑蓝。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:我看见你在黑蓝注册的时间是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">05</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">年初。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:嗯,前面在潜水。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:怎么浮出水面的?被拽上来的?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:对啊,赵松叫我上来的。因为我喜欢电影,所以弄这个东西我很来劲。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:看出来了……!</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:你对现在影音版的交流怎么看?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:就是现在,还不够,但是多了很多参与进来的人是好事。刚过完年,大家好像都没进入状态,我也是。过年这段时间没怎么看电影,但是必须坚持,没看也要说。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:嗯。你和尚方翎剑的加入,把影音版带活起来了。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:我也不知道活起来到底是个什么模样,我想热闹,但是不能瞎闹腾。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:嗯,关于《三峡好人》跟帖交流的那种热闹,是不是你期望的热闹?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:差不多,但是还没完全打开,因为大多数人,包括我,都业余,有些东西说不上来。我想如果真的爱电影,就会想要知道更多的东西,那么必然态度就会认真起来。这种热闹其实我适应不了,因为脑子好像跟不上来,还是所知太少的缘故我想。看《三峡好人》的贴,我对电影就产生了很多疑问。“很多问题,解决不了的问题”,至少是现在还不能解决的问题。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:你觉得在论坛上,“专业”和“交流”之间有没有矛盾?就好比段数高的,可能会不那么对这种论坛交流感兴趣。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:对,是有矛盾。这是一个业余的讨论电影的板块,但是很多人都能从业余走向专业的。这跟拍电影的某些状况是一样的。有专业的人来这里,我肯定会积极配合,毛主席说,要认真,认真就能做好事。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:你对怎么搞影音版,有没有什么具体想法和目标呐?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:说老实话,我是个没有计划和目标的人。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:我觉得尚同学比你学院气多一些;你呢,好像更求好玩一些。——我是说在论坛上。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:他迟早会不学院的,哈</span><font face="Times New Roman">
</font><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">哈。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:……</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:是的,但是我觉得首先得要有好玩的东西在里面。好玩的东西在这里能起到兴奋剂的作用。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:对目前版上的状态基本满意吗?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:谈不上满意不满意,我只希望能更好,有更多让我、让大家都会觉得有意思的东西出现,就是这样的。(——“诶,居然这样的。”)很多东西自己会变化,你要做的就是明白哪些是变好的,哪些变得不好,这个不好,当然会是我自己的概念,谁要我是斑竹捏,我有一定的决定权。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">我觉得,专业不是问题,重要的是认真。如果真的喜欢,就不可能乱来。我不喜欢乱来的家伙。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:态度说明一切。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:就是!</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:跟你讲个笑话。你看过电影《</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">AV</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">》没?看过我就不说了,没看过我就说。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:没有。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:里面有个胖子,为了能出演</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">AV</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">里面的角色,就要克服自己的心理障碍,然后他就去药店,跟卖药喊着说,“我不行,我要伟哥”,卖药的说“不行还叫这么大声”。说完了。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">I see.<br/><br/></font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:你当上版主后平均每天花多少时间在版上?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:从中午上班开始,到下班咯。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:这和你以前的生活相比,有变化不?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:没有变化。……这个话说得不准确,纠正一下,让我更有会把时间集中在看电影,想电影了。以前也差不多,只是没有发贴而已。还有,以前会把时间平均到看书,发呆,看电影上面。现在就偏向于电影了。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:会去其他版逛么?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:现在吗?现在去其他板块逛。以前没有。以前很少上黑蓝。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:嗯。那对黑蓝总体有个什么样的印象?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:说不上来,还在观察中,呵呵。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:潜水和浮出水面发言有什么区别?来现身说法一下。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:浮出水面可以直接地发现你不太了解的事情,能快一点解决问题。潜水,只能看。浮出来,能够测量,测量什么呢,我举个例子,就跟游泳一样,我发现很多游泳的人会跟我说,诶,你能浮出水面,抬着头游泳。看来很简单,实际上需要克服很多问题。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">交流是挺重要的,你可以找到志同道合的人,能说一些事儿,如果你浮出来,觉得不对味,那么你就不用再到这来了。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:嗯,节省时间。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:很多东西,能越辨越明,态度要对头,那样会更有意思。以退为进,不如进了再退。你觉得呢。进了再退,退得舒服,自己不跟自己叫劲,那是考验人的活。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:说得好。就是说并不是一个线性的过程。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:对,跟股票一样,有涨有跌。而且我觉得必须得进,反复并不是重复,是吧。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:对。总体看还是个前进的过程。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:小说版好像也有这个问题,说话人少。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:说你提的这个小说版的问题。比如说就这几天那个彭麦峰,我在那个贴里说过几次话,后来也就不说了。本来我想说这个贴没意思,说的话也没意思,因为那个彭态度不对。可是这话我不在那个贴子里说,如果大家都不说,那么他自己就会消失。现在这个帖子的作用完全是娱乐大众。如果他自我解嘲可以说我娱乐大众。但是实际上不是,他是在浪费时间。再进一步说,这样很无聊。这种无聊,是一种浪费时间的无聊。因为我发现这几天他一直守着那个贴,那种做法就是重复。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:那个贴我看了几次,后来就不去看了,所以不知道怎么说。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:你这样做其实是对的。一个人捣鼓事情,如果是认真的态度,大家一看就明白了。就像那个宋祖德,那态度就不对,所以他就是个娱乐大众的臭嘴,而且大众看了还要骂他。他还自得其乐。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:但是如果知道自己在做的事是个娱乐的效果,就也会不一样。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:对,你说的这个情况很隐性,就是自己得明白自己在做什么。这种事儿不需要向大家交代。可是有些人过不了自己那关,不停地交代。最后把自己逼到了死胡同里。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:嗯,琢磨琢磨人家为什么这么说,都比瞎使劲要好。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:那是没有技巧的表现。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:也就是像你说的,不知道退一步。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:所以我说进了再退,是考验人的活儿。哈哈。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:嗯,也可能其实是种不自信,不自信才需要不停辩解。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:就跟看电影一样的。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:诶,怎么个一样?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:我是说,电影这玩意,很多人来说它,我们看了,觉得写得不好。但是看的多了,自然就能明白,自然就有长进。所以是时间的事儿,不能着急,要稳住自己。人需要点拨,或者是自己点拨自己,或者是别人点拨自己。还有沉淀,你也需要沉淀,我也需要。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:嗯。不过也不急。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:对,不能急。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:但是也不能太不急,哈哈。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:我原来练毛笔字的本子封面上就印了毛主席的话,说人最怕认真二字,我们共产党就要认真。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:我觉得影音版帖子好看,就是因为,它不光是在说电影。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:嗯,继续说。我听着。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:我不懂电影的,但是看大家的跟帖发言,觉得里面很多道理都是相通的,它真的不光是在说电影。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:对,是的是的。很微妙。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">记者:就像你上次在电影三峡好人那个讨论贴里说到的“苦难”,我后来想想,那种把苦难树立起来的态度,也是一种隐形的“姿态”,而一旦成为姿态,就不好了。比如中国好多电影里的苦大仇深。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">边河:就是。看来很多事情仔细瞧出来都是殊路同归。太高兴了!前途看来一片光明之象,哈</span><font face="Times New Roman">
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