对伟大偶然而要命的限制

生铁

<p>我倒不觉得骂SB是无用的跟贴，我觉得有必要让人看清这种人的嘴脸。</p><p></p><p>我刚又看了看最后两页的辩论，仍想骂人。</p><p>又想解释一下，与陈卫对话录出来的原因，为什么贴在这里，以及我为什么觉得对陈卫以及其他我认为比我更强大一些的作者更客气一些更尊重一些是合情合理的（零丁反正已经解释过一些了！）。我觉得这种态度不会使一个真正的作者丧失自我——我更认为这应该是这里的老会员的一种基本素质或者叫底线素质了。</p><p>另外，我当时回帖后和几个好朋友也说了，那个对话录里有很多难得一见的真东西，让他们去看。不看或者看不惯的，那就随便了。</p><p>但是，我觉得当你给一个要给你捣乱的SB来解释这些时，不过是给他更多把柄来跟你胡搅蛮缠。</p><p>所以没什么好说的。有种的都拿作品来说话。</p><p></p><p>最后，提一下关于小说的评论、解释或者叫辩论——这没什么神秘的，和音乐、美术作品一样，你去评论、分析、辩论，当然和作者本意相差很远。艺术是有些不可言的地方，这有什么？生活里很多真东西真感受说出来都要变味儿。但也不是说就不能说了，还是那句老话，不要把文学弄得玄学化。</p>

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宇宙级文豪

<p>一个在明一个在暗的辩论，这样，没多大意思</p><p>小说里音乐的描写还是让我想到了那篇《死者》，都柏林人刚开始看的时候也看不进去，但多看了几遍，又仿着它写了几篇，就觉得《都柏林人》非常了不起，这是本少有的值得反复读的书</p><p>好小说有很多，但经得起反复读的没多少</p><p>我想，这不止是因为此书沉重凝炼的语言，最主要的是小说里所承载的含义能激起读者无限广大的想像</p><p>每一次重读，脑海里想像出的画面越丰富</p>

的权利的丧尸

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn">生铁我不得不说你就是这里最大的败笔。要不是坛主跳出来护着你我从头到尾想骂的就你一个。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn">要不是你一直跟在后面汪汪汪没人关心你们谁是谁，我发帖前没那习惯先往你头像底下扫一下，看你们都是些什么“人物”。代不代表水准不知道，单看这篇小说什么都看不出来。我开始还纳闷这后面的跟贴怎么那么味道奇怪，看了你们对骂才恍然大明白。你在后面汪汪的越多扯出来的破事就越多，本来想让你闭嘴，竟然又能扯出来一个论坛运行说明一个坛主表态。你们把自己当个东西，不代表谁都知道你们是个什么东西。你们就这么打自己嘴巴玩儿吧。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;times new roman&amp:;quot:;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn">好好好，初到贵宝地，惹了一个版主，惹了一个坛主，一个太上皇，一个看门狗，谁被骂走都不奇怪。当了一回看门狗嘴里不是到谁是什么东西的傻逼，骂得真是好，挨骂我活该。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun"><p></p></span></p>

生铁

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>的权利的丧尸</i>在2008-06-15 18:22:21的发言：</b><br /><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;times:">生铁我不得不说你就是这里最大的败笔。要不是坛主跳出来护着你我从头到尾想骂的就你一个。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun"> <p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun"><p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p></span></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;times:">要不是你一直跟在后面汪汪汪没人关心你们谁是谁，我发帖前没那习惯先往你头像底下扫一下，看你们都是些什么“人物”。代不代表水准不知道，单看这篇小说什么都看不出来。我开始还纳闷这后面的跟贴怎么那么味道奇怪，看了你们对骂才恍然大明白。你在后面汪汪的越多扯出来的破事就越多，本来想让你闭嘴，竟然又能扯出来一个论坛运行说明一个坛主表态。你们把自己当个东西，不代表谁都知道你们是个什么东西。你们就这么打自己嘴巴玩儿吧。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun"> <p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun"><p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p></span></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:&amp;quot:;quot:;mso-hansi-font-family:&amp;quot:;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;times:">好好好，初到贵宝地，惹了一个版主，惹了一个坛主，一个太上皇，一个看门狗，谁被骂走都不奇怪。当了一回看门狗嘴里不是到谁是什么东西的傻逼，骂得真是好，挨骂我活该。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun"> <p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p></div><p>哎，这就对了。 </p><p>骂你这么半天，就是为了让你把这些心里藏着的话说出来。 </p><p>你心里憋着这些毒，又托名谈文学来释放，新来的朋友还以为你多用心良苦、多懂小说、多关心作者呢。 </p><p>还是撕破脸了好，“人物”、坛主、太上皇、看门狗……晒晒你满脑子的这些脏东西。撕破了脸了、最丑的话说出来了，再装着知书达理懂文学也就难了。 </p><p></p>

的权利的丧尸

<p>好，我来道个歉，之前把71楼论坛运行说明当成陈卫发的了，导致对陈卫有了些误会，对他态度不好。看了一下ID和头衔，原来是管理员发的，管理员对在线人数紧张点也不奇怪，就是把后台的事拿到这里来不知道什么意思，搞得紧张兮兮的。看了限制级里面的其它优秀作品，里面各种争论和冷嘲热讽也不少，单单在这个小作品后没有任何杂音，又有人出来“创始人创始人”，很难让人不误会。</p><p>那也就难怪陈卫态度不好了，就像凌丁说的，作者对批评本能的抵触是正常的，自己的意图不被了解本就懊恼，有点小脾气也可以理解。而且回答问题态度严肃认真，后面的讨论的确让人受益匪浅，又去看了他其它的小说发现水准的确不低，这一点上我尊敬他。而且发现陈卫原来是“超级版主”，想了一下，应该还是管理员才算得上是坛主吧？那陈卫后来的情绪，应该是不能代表论坛一贯风格吧？这就真搞不懂了，随它去吧。</p><p>发现凌丁也是管理员，这才像个做坛主的样子，基于作品，爱护优秀作者，爱护论坛声誉，也爱护新会员，批评欣赏，一切自由。</p><p>至于生铁，原来不明说是给你留着面子，希望你知趣闭嘴就得了。当时我就看了陈卫两篇小说，两篇讨论里都你这么一个疯狗逮谁咬谁，这里怎么有你这么一个智障？你也就一版主，跟你们管理员和超级版主学学气度，看看人家的认真豁达劲儿。对作品的问题和疑问，不是只有你生铁的喜欢的那一种调调，别不合你胃口就疯咬。算了，这里有没有后台的事，不知道，咱外人就不废话了。你这疯狗，有你没你，我忽略你。</p><p><br />不过我跟你明说，我和海大富，可都让过你，你别跟在后面没完没了。你要是一点都不爱惜这里气氛，新会员就更没义务让你三分了，自己想清楚了。</p>

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凌丁

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>的权利的丧尸</i>在2008-06-15 22:49:16的发言：</b><br /><p>就像凌丁说的，作者对批评本能的抵触是正常的，</p></div><p>我没有这么说。我谈的是，自柏拉图以降文学创作和文学批评相对抗的传统——这里的“批评”也是术语，不是“批评和自我批评”中的“批评”。 </p><p>这里我没有说“作者对批评本能的抵触是正常的”，正常的当然是择其善者而从之，择其不善而拒之也在正常之列。</p><p>另外，这里的管理员和版主都五花八门，没有一个模子做出来的道理，看得惯、或看不惯都很正常。</p><p>生铁兄也是对写作极其严肃和认真的人（小说作品也有相当不错的质地，你也可以找来看一下），正因为这种严肃和认真，也许更易动情绪，但也并非无名之火。</p><p>只要大家真的是想严肃认真的讨论作品的，说过什么都不用放在心上，无论怎样都可以坐下来谈谈文学的。</p><p></p>

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的权利的丧尸

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">我没有这么说。我谈的是，自柏拉图以降文学创作和文学批评相对抗的传统</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">——</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">这里的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">“</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">批评</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">也是术语，不是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">“</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">批评和自我批评</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">中的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">“</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">批评</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">——呵，这个我知道，只不过这破嘴早绊得我乏了，已经懒得在前面加定状，更懒得回去翻你原帖了。能在你论坛潜下心来看小说，还专门注册个</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">ID</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">看精华帖的，恐怕这些事就不需你费力普及了（说不定普及你都富裕）。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">不过我这话的确没往严谨了说，你也的确需要抓我点毛病给你哥找点面子，我理解，你完全可以继续。不过你也悠着点儿，别碰着我心情大好。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial"><font size="3">对抗批评（来，你再来普及一遍），甚至对抗读者的作者不在少数，哪儿都一样。到底有没有那个胸襟择其善者而从之，还得走着说。陈卫这屁大丁点事都拒绝被有差异解读，也未免不是对抗的形式之一，对抗又不一定是坏事。</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">这里我没有说</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">“</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">作者对批评本能的抵触是正常的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">，正常的当然是择其善者而从之，择其不善而拒之也在正常之列。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial"><font size="3">——正常的就当然是择其善者而从之？也未必吧。谁知道什么是善（对，你最好再给我普及一下这善不是善良的善）？有时候路不走死了走厌了，恐怕也没那个力道从惯道里抽离出来吧。呆傻了快疯了也就快出来了。哦，你哥说不定快出来了。</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">另外，这里的管理员和版主都五花八门，没有一个模子做出来的道理，看得惯、或看不惯都很正常。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">生铁兄也是对写作极其严肃和认真的人（小说作品也有相当不错的质地，你也可以找来看一下），正因为这种严肃和认真，也许更易动情绪，但也并非无名之火。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">——你开的是公共坛吧？读者可远比你们几个版主千姿百态多了。好小说已经多得读不过来了，读完好小说再来读这两个半原创，认真读完就是最大的尊重了，表达个喜欢不喜欢再正常不过，更何况人家比这有素养得多。忍不了了，说都他妈滚蛋，你哥这点，做的可够仗义的。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial"></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">关起门来，非黑蓝调原创者及马屁精莫入，邀请观赏制，多纯洁！</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> <p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial"></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">啧啧，看看人家版主替你操心的：</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> <p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">亢蒙：</span></b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">论坛内的小说版，很多时候是，<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">看的人多，而发言的却很少，似乎总是那几个人在点评和调侃，</b>这样的现状是不是也从侧面显现了如今大家对小说的一种冷淡？</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">陈卫：是的。很让人寒心。</span></b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">但是现在大家的生存压力太大了。说压力大其实是欲望大。生存影响了看小说。为了生存的职业之余，还有多少精力和平缓的心态去看小说？再者说，如今还有多少人把小说当作一个兴趣？<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">似乎除了自己也写的人，几乎没有额外的读者了。</b>有时就这一点，也让我觉得更多地应该把我们的作品出版成书，因为我不相信有个能上网的电脑的人，他上来之后主要任务是为了看小说，除了黑蓝的斑竹之外。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt"></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span><strong><font size="4">这基本上，让我想起了，臭球烂脾气，还想要球迷的，中国男足！</font></strong>[em14]<strong> </strong><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:#0066ff;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p></span></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p><p></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">只要大家真的是想严肃认真的讨论作品的，说过什么都不用放在心上，无论怎样都可以坐下来谈谈文学的。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:#0066ff;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">——凌丁，要不是你不老实，我说不定还老实点儿的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">……</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">别再干那些明着暗着恶心人的事了，我说不定会理你的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">……</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">我们不要再玩了好不好，好无聊啊。你们接着开始一本正经聊小说好不好，哪怕煞有介事呢。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">嗯，那个吧，陈卫选这首歌，一个是为了难唱，另一个吧，是为了难听。真的！</span></p>

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平行公理

<p>我说你们能不能别再理他啦，这人的理解力不是一般二般的差啊，别人说是“衡量这个坛子质量的一个重要线索”，他非要说别人的意思是“代表这个坛子”。作者来回答人家提的问题，他非不让人家回答，说应该让人家去“发现”。别人作为作者说了选一首歌的理由，他非要否定作者的意思，非要说人家选这首歌还有他认为的傻逼理由。</p><p><br />连谁发的帖子都能看错的人，你还理他干啥？</p><p><br />这个人老在这里说话，把我们搞烦死了，老来点这个帖子，以为又有什么有意思的跟帖，一看还是这，真他妈烦，你们也太宽容了，可把我们害苦了！<br /></p>

的权利的丧尸

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>平行公理</i>在2008-06-16 10:44:10的发言：</b><br /><p>我说你们能不能别再理他啦，这人的理解力不是一般二般的差啊，别人说是“衡量这个坛子质量的一个重要线索”，他非要说别人的意思是“代表这个坛子”。作者来回答人家提的问题，他非不让人家回答，说应该让人家去“发现”。别人作为作者说了选一首歌的理由，他非要否定作者的意思，非要说人家选这首歌还有他认为的傻逼理由。</p><p><br />连谁发的帖子都能看错的人，你还理他干啥？</p><p><br />这个人老在这里说话，把我们搞烦死了，老来点这个帖子，以为又有什么有意思的跟帖，一看还是这，真他妈烦，你们也太宽容了，可把我们害苦了！<br /></p></div><p>就是就是，不要再理我了，很害人的。</p>

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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>的权利的丧尸</i>在2008-06-16 10:27:54的发言：</b><br /><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">我没有这么说。我谈的是，自柏拉图以降文学创作和文学批评相对抗的传统</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">——</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">这里的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">“</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">批评</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">也是术语，不是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">“</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">批评和自我批评</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">中的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">“</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">批评</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1169ee;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">——呵，这个我知道，只不过这破嘴早绊得我乏了，已经懒得在前面加定状，更懒得回去翻你原帖了。能在你论坛潜下心来看小说，还专门注册个</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">ID</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">看精华帖的，恐怕这些事就不需你费力普及了（说不定普及你都富裕）。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">不过我这话的确没往严谨了说，你也的确需要抓我点毛病给你哥找点面子，我理解，你完全可以继续。不过你也悠着点儿，别碰着我心情大好。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial"><font size="3">对抗批评（来，你再来普及一遍），甚至对抗读者的作者不在少数，哪儿都一样。到底有没有那个胸襟择其善者而从之，还得走着说。陈卫这屁大丁点事都拒绝被有差异解读，也未免不是对抗的形式之一，对抗又不一定是坏事。</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">这里我没有说</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">“</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">作者对批评本能的抵触是正常的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:新細明體;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">，正常的当然是择其善者而从之，择其不善而拒之也在正常之列。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial"><font size="3">——正常的就当然是择其善者而从之？也未必吧。谁知道什么是善（对，你最好再给我普及一下这善不是善良的善）？有时候路不走死了走厌了，恐怕也没那个力道从惯道里抽离出来吧。呆傻了快疯了也就快出来了。哦，你哥说不定快出来了。</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">另外，这里的管理员和版主都五花八门，没有一个模子做出来的道理，看得惯、或看不惯都很正常。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:arial;mso-hansi-font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">生铁兄也是对写作极其严肃和认真的人（小说作品也有相当不错的质地，你也可以找来看一下），正因为这种严肃和认真，也许更易动情绪，但也并非无名之火。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">——你开的是公共坛吧？读者可远比你们几个版主千姿百态多了。好小说已经多得读不过来了，读完好小说再来读这两个半原创，认真读完就是最大的尊重了，表达个喜欢不喜欢再正常不过，更何况人家比这有素养得多。忍不了了，说都他妈滚蛋，你哥这点，做的可够仗义的。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial"></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">关起门来，非黑蓝调原创者及马屁精莫入，邀请观赏制，多纯洁！</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> <p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial"></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:arial">啧啧，看看人家版主替你操心的：</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> <p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">亢蒙：</span></b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">论坛内的小说版，很多时候是，<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">看的人多，而发言的却很少，似乎总是那几个人在点评和调侃，</b>这样的现状是不是也从侧面显现了如今大家对小说的一种冷淡？</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">陈卫：是的。很让人寒心。</span></b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">但是现在大家的生存压力太大了。说压力大其实是欲望大。生存影响了看小说。为了生存的职业之余，还有多少精力和平缓的心态去看小说？再者说，如今还有多少人把小说当作一个兴趣？<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">似乎除了自己也写的人，几乎没有额外的读者了。</b>有时就这一点，也让我觉得更多地应该把我们的作品出版成书，因为我不相信有个能上网的电脑的人，他上来之后主要任务是为了看小说，除了黑蓝的斑竹之外。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt"></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span><strong><font size="4">这基本上，让我想起了，臭球烂脾气，还想要球迷的，中国男足！</font></strong>[em14]<strong> </strong><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:#0066ff;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p></span></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p><p></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p><p></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;color:#0066ff;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">只要大家真的是想严肃认真的讨论作品的，说过什么都不用放在心上，无论怎样都可以坐下来谈谈文学的。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:#0066ff;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">——凌丁，要不是你不老实，我说不定还老实点儿的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">……</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">别再干那些明着暗着恶心人的事了，我说不定会理你的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">……</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體">我们不要再玩了好不好，好无聊啊。你们接着开始一本正经聊小说好不好，哪怕煞有介事呢。</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-fareast-font-family:simsun;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:simsun;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman';mso-fareast-language:zh-cn;mso-bidi-font-family:新細明體;mso-ansi-language:en-us;mso-bidi-language:ar-sa">嗯，那个吧，陈卫选这首歌，一个是为了难唱，另一个吧，是为了难听。真的！</span></p></div><p>呵呵，真惊了。</p>